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March 21, 2016 at 1:42 am in reply to: 2016 North Americans – Venues and Dates Discussion #4843
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All – Let’s begin planning CORK in earnest. We can create a new topic for planning. Let’s make it a great year!March 14, 2016 at 8:51 pm in reply to: 2016 North Americans – Venues and Dates Discussion #4832
Posted on behalf of Mike Hull and the Eastern Olson 30 Fleets:
A warm hello to the Eastern Olson 30 Fleet,
Jonathan has rescinded hosting NAs at LIS, so I’m proposing the following event (different dates than last email):
Olson 30 North Americans hosted by CORK (in congruity with Etchell 22 Canadians)
Thursday July 21 – early arrival and launch
Friday July 22 – late arrival, registration, skipper’s meeting, course racing (target 4 races), social event
Saturday July 23 – long distance race, social event
Sunday July 24 – course racing (target 3 races), awards, departure
– Olsons will dock at either Kingston Yacht Club (KYC) or Portsmouth Olympic Harbour (POH)
– social events to piggy-pack on Etchells or stand-alone at KYC
– crane will be onsite at POH to launch/haul Olsons and Etchells
Event planning will be contingent on a minimum of six interested boats; please respond asap if your boat is interested.
The gang doesn’t seem to be listening, which is unfortunate.
I personally have never seen any issue with spinnaker halyards chafing or not running well, but maybe others have. I can’t imagine why you’d want to run external halyards, that makes very little sense to me. One thing to look at are the sheaves, they were originally designed for wire-rope halyards and could be an issue if you are running straight high tech line if they haven’t been modified or replaced. Photos show some original O30 masthead sheaves that were modified to work with modern line.
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Never heard of anything like that Javier. If you do anything, document and send to the webmaster, we’re always looking for interesting ideas to share.
What specifically would you be trying to accomplish with mods to the exits? Are you trying to lead the halyards more effectively or smoothly?
Sleeper – Thanks for the positive comments. We have to agree, we think the site has come along pretty well in the last 12 months. There is always more to do of course. Bit by bit we’re pulling together the three different iterations of olson30.org and making them whole, and adding as much new content as we can.
On the above, this is great and appreciated. Neat that you noticed the new section that is yet to be added. It’s a rich vein of material and your list is great. What would be even better is if there were finishing results for all of the above. I believe the O30 has won overall a few times and class many times. We will use your list for sure. We need to build a page for SHTP, it’s coming soon.
There are 4 boats registered for this year and two of them we don’t have any info on the hull database. “WIDMAT” and “PASSAGES”. Passages we know the previous owner but she was for sale and maybe the new owner is racing her, or maybe it’s a charter. Not sure.
Yay!January 8, 2016 at 5:29 pm in reply to: 2016 North Americans – Venues and Dates Discussion #4574
I propose we hold a Great Lakes Championship in June (as per Mike Hull’s plan) and hold the Olson 30 North Americans as per Jonathan’s plan. The events are far enough away from each other than some folks will consider doing both and this gives the Seaboard boats a chance to host the NAC’s, and gives the Great Lakes boats a significant regatta.
Surfer Girl / Victrix has been a consistent NAC’s participant for years, with big travel times and expenses involved. This year they are planning to do the Lake Ontario 300 so the June NAC’s will be out for them, but maybe a boat like theirs could swing NAC’s in October, plus CT is closer to QC. Hate to see Victrix miss NAC’s this year after their unwavering support for years.
Thoughts?January 8, 2016 at 3:49 pm in reply to: 2016 North Americans – Venues and Dates Discussion #4570
I would say yes Mike, any event needs to be planned now, we are already very late on this unless we are piggybacking onto an existing event (as has been done in the past with LYRA).January 7, 2016 at 5:09 pm in reply to: 2016 North Americans – Venues and Dates Discussion #4567
All excellent comments. I love your Corpus Christi idea and agree that the time to start planning it is now! There are some strong members in TX. 2018 will be the 40th anniversary of the ‘birth’ of the Olson 30, so that’s a natural celebration.
What’s holding people back: it’s a great question and let’s hope whatever it is gets released and people are ‘free’ to join in to discussions and ultimately participation for 2016.
The Class is putting together an email to prompt folks to visit this forum and participate, that will go out before the end of January.
We have the voting results from last year, would it be useful to share them?December 16, 2015 at 5:17 pm in reply to: 2016 North Americans – Venues and Dates Discussion #4440
I personally would be in favour of a constitutional amendment that would mandate something like an ‘every-other-year’ policy so NA’s would alternate between a location on the Easter Seaboard and an inland location – Great Lakes etc. The other way – within the current framework – to work with this is to mobilize all boats in the Seaboard locales to get your desired location chosen in the voting. As I recall last year the Seaboard vote were evenly split between the Perth Amboy and Greenwich, so vote splitting could (and did) occur. I am not sure the outcome would have been different but it might have been.
I also discussed some of this with Todd Downey (Class Secretary). He’s of two minds on it. I don’t speak on his behalf but to a degree the West Coast fleets don’t really care what we do out in the East, it doesn’t affect them. On the other hand, a strong Class benefits everyone. It’s not an easy topic to make conclusions on.
Our boat has a complete hodge-podge. Some of the original schaefer which I think were the doubles. One Harken double. Last year we re-jigged the turning blocks and installed two new Harken 1988 blocks which are super nice and also spendy. We used the 1988’s on the two most critical halyards, main and #1 genoa. Our boat still has most (but not all) lines led aft and will probably always have this since we use it offshore as much or more as for buoy racing.December 9, 2015 at 12:45 am in reply to: 2016 North Americans – Venues and Dates Discussion #4365
Boom can be in Kingston.
We now have the entire sailpix message database on our server, just have to figure out a way to make it searchable.
I don’t have a lot to add personally but here are some articles:
we have some coming off our boat for ST’s. barient 22’s, were serviced this spring and are in good shape.
Good luck Dave! Will be awesome if you can get a charter. Boom is hoping to be at the LO300 also, which would make 3x Olson 30’s.
It’s closely tied to the cut of the headsail you’re using so it’s difficult to standardize, as well it will depend on how your backstay is set up, how much purchase you have so how much mast bend you’re able to produce.
Sorry for confusion – That’s not Ray’s photo. I posted a photo to make sure the attachment function was working, and used a photo of an O30 masthead just because it was germane.
Thanks Doug. Not sure if ‘expert’ was the right or wrong way to phrase it. I can open the files also but what needs to be done is for the stations to be labelled and dimensioned, and there are some small issues with the sections that need to be looked at. We can send the dwg files to you.
Welcome and congrats on the new boat! So exciting to have a new boat!
We have the info on your boat in our hull database, from when the boat was in toledo. If you could send a message to the webmaster from here:
we can update the database with your new info.
also have a look at the Class Association faceboook:
and the Olson 30 Fans facebook:
both of which have lots of info and activity.
Still waiting for photos of The Source showing floating leads, Joe Joines promises they will be sent to the site before long.
many manufacturers give discounts in the fall. usually around 20%. i don’t think it matters what kind of sail or kind of boat. for example:
If you go with Quantum you may want to get Todd involved as an advice-giver, he’s Olson 30 class champion 7 times (I think) so he knows what works for an O30! The other thing is it’s a good time of year for sail purchasing, everyone has fall discounts running now or starting in a few weeks.
There’s no free lunch when it comes to sails, unfortunately. Probably your best bet is to contact Todd Downey – Olson 30 class secretary, who is a quantum rep, or Keith Magnussen who is an Ullman Rep and Olson 30 sailor. Or go through your local Quantum or Ullman loft. You are not going to find a good sail that costs $1k less (for example), they will all be in the same $ ballpark like for like.
I am trying to get Joe to send me photos of The Source – he has gone completely floating leads on the whole boat. I am sure he will send soon.
We have both kinds of mainsails, slug and no slug – needs a strop. Both work fine.
not cross-sheeting but many people sheet to the cabin top winches instead of the cockpit winches. so you are not sheeting across the cockpit, but from the cheek block aft of the genoa lead up to the cabin top.
we have 4 winches but the boat is not completely setup yet and there are no cleats installed yet for the cockpit winches (non self-taling). one thing we’ve found is the cockpit winches tend to get in the way of the main trimmer. especially in a big breeze you are pretty active on the mainsheet and traveler and the winch is pretty much exactly where you need to sit to trim the main. we can see now why many people remove them. getting weight forward is part of the rationale for sheeting from the cabin top but clutter in the cockpit is another.
make sure to look over the pages here on deck layouts. they are far from comprehensive but there are good examples to refer to.
also doug, you might consider joining the class association, and also we will send an email so we have your info in the hull database.