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The forestay on this mast is held on the same pin that holds the two wing (spinnaker) sheaves. So it exits the mast box right between the red and blue halyards in the photo. (it not installed in photos but you can see it in one of the pictures)
I agree it looks odd and not good. I haven’t seen a masthead that looks like that before, with the forestay attachment above the mast crane. Normally the forestay pin is buried inside the mast a bit below the top of the crane. The forestay is normally held on the same pin that carries the two outer halyard sheaves, in the middle.
If you scroll down on this page there are some good photos documenting removal of the keel.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/olson30scourge/photos/
The keel is faired to the keep root with glass and filler. Removing it will necessitate re-fairing but there should not be other damage so long as you do the removal carefully.
Did the 5199 drawing come from Foss recently, as a result of an inquiry? Just curious more than anything (not trying to give you the 3rd degree!) Yes it’s interesting how they differ slightly.
Is the image in post 5197 an Olson 30?
The drawing in post 5199, I just noticed it is slightly different than the current Foss rudder – however both drawings appear to me to be done by the same person. The angle of 80° noted on the drawing is wrong. This angle is 90°. Both drawings have this mistake. Also funny how on the more recent drawing they spelled Olson wrong!
The post 5199 drawing, where did that come from?
The drawing is of the most recent Foss built rudder. Note that there is a mistake in the drawing, the top plane of the rudder should be square to the rudder post. The actual rudders are not like the drawing in this detail.
What rudder is in the photo in post #5197?
OK I see. It’s hard to see the rudder in that picture because it’s turned away from the photo. But I do see that now. We don’t have contact info for this person on our suppliers page, I think we should.
What is a “Tuttle Rudder”?
I don’t disagree on Facebook. Unfortunately the ‘Olson 30 Fans’ Facebook page has almost replaced the forums here completely, which is a big loss in my opinion. There is a lot of great info in these forums and sero white noise to deal with, just discussion of the Olson 30.
Mike,
Here is some info, it’s on facebook unfortunately.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/olson30/search/?query=foss
Also follow along with Jason’s posts in the link above, he recently installed the Foss rudder and he has sailed a lot of offshore miles with it. The same rudder was installed by Jiri on a boat that won class in the SHTP. The boat is now in Hawaii. Everyone who has installed the Foss rudder has positive reports. It’s probably slow in very light wind due to the large wetted surface. But offshore and in big breeze it gets great reviews, and if you were offshore with an autopilot it’s much better than the stock rudder. For course racing or inshore racing it might not pay off as much.
Look forward to seeing more! The traveler in interesting.
Thanks, great info.
Will be at boat on Thursday and take some photos. The Etchells setup is pretty slick. The one advantage over the bag is that it’s very easy to stow the pole. Much easier than with the bag. Not that the bag is all that hard but the Etchells setup is faster and easier to stow.
You will have overhang with the cloth sleeve. Close to 12″. It doesn’t see to be a big issue. I will posts photos of a different solution, which is a metal bracket that is used on Etchells, different than the sleeve and in a few ways much easier to use. But lots of people swear by the bag on the boom.
Not much else you can do I don’t think. Make sure your twing setup is strong enough not to break!
Dan,
I will see what we can find as far as owners in your area.
This IRC certificate shows 3,827lbs.
http://www.olson30.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/PANTHER_IRC_2013.pdf
IRC requires the boat to be weighed fully rigged so it should be fairly accurate. I would not be surprised to see close to 4,000lbs for some boats, depending on installed equipment, water in core, sails aboard etc.
Thanks!
Posted to the Facebook page, thanks for letting us know!
The original turnbuckles are 5/16-24. The threaded part of the turnbuckle as shown is 6″ long.
Dan / Freakshow,
Welcome!
Make sure to let us know about which boat you purchased:
Yay! Thanks for all the good work you are doing Mike! BOOM will be there.
Can’t have too many sails! We have one really old (original maybe) .5 spinnaker that still works great,, it’s very light and perfect for light breeze.
Welcome to the community!
I would say wind range for that sail would be 30+. We can easily hold our #3 up to 25kt. The crucial issue with an old sail like that would be it holding together. My boat came with a #4 that looks to have never been used but it’s a laminate sail and old. I would be hesitant to put it up in 30kt.
Our local UK sailmaker calls this kind of sail “Use ’til God says otherwise”.
Forums activity has fallen off dramatically. Blame Facebook. But we are trying to bring people here, the advantage to discussions here is we control the content, unlike Facebook.
I can try to connect you with some of the Bay Area owners.
Not sure how far this project got:
Agreed, would be a great venue.
Posted to the Class Facebook!
